The Support Groups are Growing

April, 2019 – The Kalamazoo group is successfully transitioning to two new co-leaders. The new leaders have ideas for improving the group. The effect of their ideas was evidenced by the fact that in March, there were 21 attendees — the largest meeting to date. Kalamazoo is also interested in working with the Michigan ACLU to improve Michigan’s sex offense laws.

The Washtenaw group is also growing. In April, there were 32 attendees. Attendance was boosted by a guest speaker, a psychologist. However, numbers are consistently going up. So much so, that there is talk about when it will be necessary to split into two groups.

At the Washtenaw April support group meeting there were people from Traverse City and Port Huron who hope to start similar support groups in those areas. There is definitely a need for these types of groups. Every week we receive enquiries from family members or people forced to register.

ACLU Training Audio Available

Thanks to our musician and audio-engineer member Rich we now have a recording of our February 23, 2019 advocacy training. The training was given by Shelli Weisberg and Tim Poxson of the ACLU of Michigan and is described in a little more detail in a previous blog post. It’s about two hours long, but you don’t have to listen to all of it. So that you can go directly to the parts you want to review, here’s an index giving you starting and ending times of each major segment:

0:00–0:20Skip (Conversation before training)
0:20–6:24Shelli Weisberg’s introduction
6:24–16:50Skip (Participant introductions)
6:24–12:18Tim Poxson’s introduction
12:18–56:45Status of Does cases
56:45–1:24:23Advocacy training
1:24:23–1:39:30Model role play by Shelli, Tim, and Greg
1:39:30–1:48:55Skip (Small group role playing)
1:48:55–2:02:56Evaluations of small groups
2:02:56–2:07:58Next steps

ACLU Trains Advocates for Changing Michigan’s SORA

On February 23, 2019 the Ann Arbor Citizens for Justice support group hosted Shelli Weisberg, the Legislative Director of the ACLU of Michigan, who trained 18 group members to lobby state legislators on the importance of changing Michigan’s SORA.

People who are required to register have been frustrated by the State of Michigan’s inaction since federal courts in 2016 decided, in Does v. Snyder, that many aspects of SORA are unconstitutional. Technically the decision applied only to the six original plaintiffs, but the court’s reasoning really applies to all people on the registry, who have been expecting some degree of relief from registry restrictions. To force this issue the ACLU filed a second, class action law suit that they’re calling Does v. Snyder II. This case has reached a stage where the judge is encouraging the ACLU and the State to reach a settlement. Any settlement will inevitably require legislative changes, and the ACLU argues that the legislature should act now or risk being told what the law must be by the judge.

The legislative changes that the ACLU and Citizens for Justice will be asking for include: making the registry private, reducing the number of people who must register, shortening required registration periods, and providing a risk-based path off the registry, among other things.

The training included a discussion of the legal basis for the requested changes as well as techniques for effectively lobbying legislators. Some role playing helped crystalize the abstract ideas.

To learn more about the Does v. Snyder cases see If you did not attend the training and would like to help with lobbying contact John at

MCFJ Members Respond to Article Critical of Free Speech & Association Rights for Registrants

On June 21, 2017 Online site “The Federalist” posted an article by Attorney Kyle Sammin bemoaning the Supreme Court of the United States recent decision involving the free speech & association rights of registered people. Here is a link to that article:

The following is the response that two of our members posted (followed by a list of citations):

Mr. Sammin,

Thank you for what I am certain was a carefully constructed article written straight from your heart. With respect, I am less than convinced that your arguments were based on the best available evidence. Let me address each of your arguments in order.

First, you assert that registered citizen’s (you use the term “Sex Offender” more on that in a second) have a “high rate of recidivism.”

It can be easy to get lost in the weeds comparing studies so let’s go straight to the “gold standard” of available evidence on sex offender recidivism, the US Government’s Department of Justice report.

If you filter the recidivism results from the DOJ report for new convictions (which is how most states define recidivism) and for crimes against children (your premise), the recidivism rate for so-called “Sex Offenders” is 1.5%.

Yup, you read correctly, the correctly weighted recidivism rate for so-called “Sex Offenders is 1.5%

As a point of comparison, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the general national recidivism rate for released prisoners is 68%.

In fact, this very issue was debated in the Amicus briefs for the Packingham case Melissa Hamilton a Juris Doctor and Ph.D. Professor of Law at the University of Houston explains that compared to the prosecution’s brief which used studies primarily on subsets that did not apply to Mr. Buckingham’s situation:

“…the amicus brief on behalf of the Association for the Treatment of Sexual Abusers (and other groups) provide evidence of sexual recidivism studies from more appropriate samples. This brief cites results from studies of released sex offenders in seven different states in America, showing sexual recidivism rates in the low single digits (most around three percent),42 which is relatively consistent with the DOJ Recidivism Study results.”

So, next, you suggest that “from the birth of the internet perverts have used it to make contact with unwitting victims.”  Unfortunately, this evidence-free pejorative assertion does not prove that returning citizens charged with sex offenses are a risk. In fact, the best available evidence does not support your thesis. Even the SMART Office (hardly a friendly source for so-called Sex Offenders) has concluded that the risks from returning internet based offenders is incredibly low:

“Seto and colleagues (2011) also reviewed recidivism rates from nine samples of Internet offenders (2,630 online offenders) followed for an average of slightly more than 3 years. They found that 4.6 percent of Internet offenders committed a new sexual offense of some kind during this time period, with 2 percent committing a contact sexual offense and 3.4 percent committing a new child pornography offense; some offenders committed both types of crimes. Although the follow up times are relatively short for this kind of research, and recidivism rates are expected to increase with more opportunity, these recidivism rates are lower than those observed in recidivism studies of offline offenders (Hanson & Morton-Bourgon, 2005) and belie the idea that all Internet offenders pose a high risk of committing contact offenses in the future.”

In fact, their report on internet offending concludes it’s recidivism section by stating:

“More research is needed, but an analysis of nine available follow-up studies suggests that Internet offenders, as a group, have a relatively low risk of sexually recidivating compared to conventional contact sex offenders.”

In addition, the SCOTUS did not say all regulations would be overbroad, they suggested several means a state could use to construct a regulation that might pass Constitutional muster. The Packingham court found that the North Carolina statute was unconstitutionally overbroad, not that regulations in this area would be inherently unconstitutional.

Also, ex-cons do not have their “rights restricted all the time” as you claim. The Restricting of the rights of any citizen’s are and will always be subject to constitutional review. Our rights are not something that can be wished away at the whims of legislators or writers for The Federalist.

I should also probably mention here that there is no such thing as a “Sex Offender.” There is no medical category defining a class known as “Sex Offenders” and there is no defined psychological class known as “Sex Offenders” it is a purely legal category created entirely by legislators.

The term Sex Offender really only means that a particular defendant was convicted of a crime that involved sex (widely defined) and the term encompasses literally hundreds (if not thousands) of crimes can label people as “sex offenders” (with new laws being passed every day). Or as the Association for the Treatment of Sexual Abusers put it in their Packingham Amicus:

“There is universal agreement among professionals that restrictions on registrants must have some basis in empirical reality to be effective. One such reality is the fact that registrants are not a homogenous group of ‘sex offenders’ that should be monolithically managed. Rather registrants comprise a diverse group of individuals, each different from the next in terms of past criminal history, behavioral patterns, and risk of recidivism. On top of the fact that the observed recidivism rates for ‘sex offenders’ in the aggregate are for lower than what conventional folk wisdom suggests, differences in recidivism risk among the diverse registrant population requires a tailored rather than a uniform approach to crime prevention.”

To carry your argument here, you would have to prove that returning citizens convicted of sexual crimes against children are at unique risk of recidivism. But, again, all of the best evidence suggests that the risk of recidivism (already very low) declines substantially over time. The evidence also clearly demonstrates that people “age out” of sexual recidivism. In addition, we know that exposure to specific kinds of therapy reduces these very low risks of recidivism even further (see SMART Office Reports).

You seem to romanticize the world where restrictions like the ones North Carolina passed would pass constitutional muster, again this seems strange because this law was not a good idea and would not have protected children (as the ATSA Amicus concluded):

“First, as Petitioner’s brief points out, the ban applies to registrants who are registered for reasons that have nothing to do with minors or harvesting information about them. Second, most victims (93%) know their offender as either a family member or close acquaintance, not via information harvested from social networking websites. Third, most offenses (85%) come from inside the home, not because of harvested information on social networking websites. And fourth, most offenses (93%) are committed by a first-time offender, not by a registrant.”

Thanks for your time and please keep in mind that your suggestions for regulation or reform potentially affect nearly 800,000 very diverse registered citizens across the United States who care deeply about the rights that you seem to believe are disposable.

List of Citations:

DOJ Report:

The general rate of recidivism claim from the Bureau of Justice Statistics can be found here:

You can find the Hamilton article here:

The internet offending claim is from this article produced by the SMART office

The Packingham ATSA Amicus:

The aging out and therapy claims are corroborated in the SMART office SOMAPPI report which you can find here:

Letter Opposing Michigan’s Proposed “Statute of Limitations” Legislation

Dear Representative ,

The reason for this letter is to speak against Senate Bill 52, which would eliminate the statute of limitations for any sex offense against someone less than 18 years of age. Since the 1980’s Michigan has increasingly relied on more and more punishment. The number of people imprisoned has gone from about 17,000 to 42,000, while Michigan’s overall population has not changed. In tandem, there are many more people under supervision and with criminal records. These ruptures and impediments diminish families and communities. The cost of imprisonment and supervision are great, and the individuals affected are not allowed to reach their potential, all of this preventing Michigan from being what it can be.

In general, statute of limitations are a reasonable compromise between society’s need for justice against its desire for fairness, efficiency and grace. Some of the reasons for them are:

  • Statute of limitations have long-standing legal and historical precedence, going back to Roman Law. The American colonial governments’ earliest laws enacted criminal statute of limitations. The United States First Congress enacted 2-3 year statutes of limitations for all federal crimes.
  • They promote fairness to the accused.
  • Evidence and memories become lost and misshapen.
  • With time defense is more difficult and prosecution less reliable.
  • Statutes of limitation encourage prompt prosecution, while one can defend oneself.
  • People may have rehabilitated themselves as they matured and don’t pose a future threat to society.

In Michigan, and with sex offenses, in particular:

  • There already is an extra long period in the statute of limitations for sex crimes against minors. Already, there is not limitation on CSC1 crimes.
  • Many of the sections included in this bill are for crimes that are common and not particularly heinous, such as teenage sex, sexual touch only, and children’s sexual exploration. I suggest, that this bill would open the majority, or at least a significant percent of adult men, to prosecution for behavior they did when they were minors.
  • Prosecuting a sexual offense often involves one person’s word against another. In Michigan you do not need any more evidence. Sexual acts from long ago are often distorted in a person’s memory because of the emotion that accompanies them. Debbie Nathan reports1 on some famous crimes that were later discredited because childhood memories had become misinterpreted by the child/adult, planted in a child’s mind by adults either intentionally or accidentally, or they were considered “repressed memories”.
  • After many years without committing another sex offense, a person is unlikely to. Research shows that after 15 years of being offense-free, a sex offender’s recidivism rate for the next 5 years is only 4%2

1Debbie Nathan is an American journalist and writer with a focus on cultural and criminal justice issues concerning the abuse of children.

2Andrew J. R. Harris and R. Karl Hanson, “Sex Offender Recidivism: A Simple Question”, Public Safety Canada, 12/15/15, viewed 3/17/17 at